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So I made it to Armageddon on Saturday, Yay!me. And it was great! I saw both Joe and Conner and both panels were really good, funny and interesting. I’ve done the Joe panel now; you guys tell me if you want to know what I remember from Conner’s and photos of him and I’ll put it up. I told [livejournal.com profile] flotternz that I didn’t remember much of the panels but once I started writing stuff down I actually did so this is massive! And not dial-up friendly. also if you want bigger photos the link goes to my photobucket album.

NOTE: This is all paraphrasing coz I didn’t record it. Please don’t use anything I write to support any arguments. I know I didn’t get the words exactly right and this is all my interpretation of what Joe said. I would hate to have someone link back to me because what I said supports their view point.

Also this contains spoilers for episodes not aired yet so if you don’t want to be spoiled please be careful. I’ll put the pictures under a separate cut, ok.

 Oh you want to talk about the show? (He cracks me up!)
The first question was about Epiphany. He had previously said that didn’t turn out like he hoped etc. so the fan wanted to know what direction he had wanted it to go. He didn’t really answer that but did mention that the reason that happened was because SG-1 had already done that particular plot line so they went in a different ‘direction’.

(IMO SG-1 has done pretty much every plot line, how was this different but hey it’s their show.)

He talked about ‘Outcast’ again. He said he had envisioned a particular back-story for Sheppard but the producers saw some of the elements differently. In the episode they show him coming from a wealthy background which Joe hadn’t thought of at all. Also I think Joe never thought about Sheppard having an ex-wife but one is in the episode (this is what I got from his statement ‘they also brought back my/his ex-wife who I had forgotten I/he had’. This is not the exact words but that was the gist of it. Please don’t hit me if you find somewhere else that Joe has mentioned Sheppard’s ex-wife before). Anyway he got into this stuff with the producers because he was protective of the character he felt he had created. He qualified that though by saying the writers also helped create the character and they had a different view of things and that you eventually adapt it in your head to fit what is.

Somebody did ask him to describe what his story for Sheppard actually was, something I thought was a very personal question for an actor and I was glad he declined. He just said that we were meant to form our own ideas of the character from the story.

He was also asked who stuffs up the most on the set. The answer is David but that’s of course because he has the most lines and says them faster than anyone Joe has ever seen before. (Hehe)

On Torri and Paul: (note this part especially is heavily paraphrased because its different comments made throughout the hour that I’ve connected. Please don’t take my words and twist them)

He misses Torri, he thought she was great and would love to have her back. He mentioned how often producers would kill a character because they (mistakenly) think that it would increase ratings, which it does but only a brief spike before it returns to normal. One fan mentioned how people are boycotting the show since she is gone and he said something to the effect that we should tell the producers how we feel about it, that we are doing it, because he wanted her back. It kind of worked for Paul who does come back this season for a couple of episodes.

Note: Apparently on the day Paul left the last scene was actually the funeral scene from Sunday (ouch!).

He talked about how he really cared about ‘his’ actors and he fought for them, would go into the producers and talk to them if he thought his actors were getting thrown around.
(You really get a sense that he is one of the leads of the show from this. Not that I doubted it but it really comes across, ‘my’ actors etc. Oh Joe! You are awesome!)

On Amanda: Loves working with her, great person etc. Apparently though, he always tries to throw her off but she never gets phased. She is used to the guys of SG-1 doing that kind of stuff and she has been doing it for ten (eleven now) years. He also said she finds Atlantis more balanced when it comes to females on set (I think he means the male/female dynamics, I'm not sure).

On his sports things: Apparently he grew up skiing. His parents used to drop him off on Saturday and Sunday with five dollars and pick him up when it got dark (his words). The skateboarding and surfing came after. Also he was at Byron’s beach (Australia) surfing on the weekend, the same place and time someone was attacked by a shark. (He kept bringing it up).

Production Stuff: a lot of the questions had to do with technical stuff about the show and shooting.

Not that we already didn’t know this but the Stargate is apparently HUGE! From the dimensions he showed us it’s massive! He says that whenever they have to do a walk through they have to quickly walk out of the shot (basically somebody yells at them ‘get out of the shot!’ hehe) and then jump back in when told to.

Apparently they shoot a lot differently to other American shows/films because anybody on set is allowed to call cut, not just the director. So if somebody trips etc. they yell cut and then the cast have to start all over again. He said him and David sometimes get frustrated with that because they have to get back into the performance, and sometimes people forget that it’s hard to do. This is especially a problem with the three camera set ups they do on the show which the use to technically get more work done but if one of them goes wrong (out of focus etc) they have to start again even though the other two cameras are fine.

He said that often after a scene is done the camera is left running and they improvise things. So if you see things at the end of a scene it might be improvised. He said that sometimes with ‘female girls’ (his words, yes I cracked up) this includes improvised kisses etc that don’t get put in. I think that’s kind of funny personally.

Weird Questions: this expo will be the place where he heard the weirdest question ever because some idiot who thought he was being funny asked what his favourite McDonalds burger was. He prefaced it with “I’ve never seen the show but...” which Joe thought was a smart way to introduce the question. The idiot then proceeded to joke that he thought it was about an intergalactic sheep herder and that shepherds in NZ face a lot of hardships etc. Seriously! What a lovely impression to make! Anyways Joe say he doesn’t eat any of that, he eats healthy etc (well obviously, have you seen him?) but enjoys the food down under because it’s so fresh (plug for NZ produce WOOT!).

On Rachel: According to a fan Rachel came down last year for the expo and she sang (Joe-“where are you going with this? NOT gonna happen!” Hehe) and he wondered if she had mentioned anything to them (the cast) about doing it. (IMO why would she? but that’s just me)
Joe said no but said that Rachel was a ham, ask her to perform and she would. Apparently she and her sisters used to perform for guests as kids (which Joe would hate to do because “you’re the hosts kid, of course they’re gonna say you’re good”) but Rachel was a talented performer and loved it.

Rachel recently had her baby boy which he thought was hilarious because Rachel unlike Teyla is very girly and dainty (this was accompanied by actions, Teyla represented by fight moves and Rachel by dancing on tiptoes and some other gestures hard to describe but hilarious). Apparently in one scene when they were supposed to be running for their lives through a forest (when do they not have to do that?) Rachel remarked on the fact that there were so many twigs on the ground. Lol.

Crazy Fans: There is a lady who truly believes he is an elf and even sent them a whole mythology on how and why this is true. I provide some other evidence with regards to this.

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There was talk about how people find McKay very annoying. (I think this was prefaced by a question if David was as annoying of his character but I can’t remember properly). Anyways he apparently had an experience at the NZ airport where the customs guy went into this whole rant about how annoying McKay is. Wow didn’t our country make the best first impression.

Acting Stuff:
He refused to talk about the projects he wanted to do but did mention ‘Shattered’ which will probably have a delayed start because of a rights fight (‘Shattered’ has been made before and nobody can decide who has the rights to it)

He would love to reprise his role in ‘Thought-crimes’ if he could because he thought it was a great character and a good premise.
  

Now for the gratuitous perving on Joe (click here for bigger)

   

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This picture broke my brain with its serious hotness. Everything about it is just yum!

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Action!Joe- This is what the Joe Flanigan action figure would look like, I swear.

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I got a really good seat!

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Date: 2007-10-21 10:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluespirit-star.livejournal.com
What lovely pics & thank you for sharing your experiences. It sounds like you had a great time!

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Date: 2007-10-21 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
it was great! I was really close up (1st row \o/) and Joe was really awesome. He was quite funny and he had some interesting things to say about the industry etc.

Also i'm not sure you can tell from the photos but his skin is gorgeous up close. he was tanned and scruffy and just *sigh* Oh Joe!

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluespirit-star.livejournal.com
Joe seems to have a really dry humour, which I love. (Just from seeing him in interviews or hearing about him - I haven't seen him. *g*)
Plus gorgeous skin?
*guh*
I'm totally with you - 'oh, Joe!'. ♥

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Date: 2007-10-21 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
seriously his skin glowed! YUM!!

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Date: 2007-10-21 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-bottle.livejournal.com
Ok, can't get to bigger pics. It just directed me to the photobucket page. :(

I think he covered more or less the same grounds in the Melb Expo, though we didn't get the whole girly Rachel thing. Hee! And god, he's wearing the same shirt even! Though un-tucked.

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Date: 2007-10-21 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
hi sorry about that. here is a link to my album where you can get the photos!

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa181/liamar13/

and yes the shirt! you think maybe its his lucky con shirt, you know the one that saves him from being mauled by fan-girls, or something? *giggles*

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] in-the-bottle.livejournal.com
WOOHOO! Yay!

God, lucky you in the first row, I was in the 12th row! He does looked more alert in these pics than he was while in Melbourne.

you know the one that saves him from being mauled by fan-girls, or something? *giggles*

LOL! Maybe...WOOHOO! Yay!

God, lucky you in the first row, I was in the 12th row! He does looked more alert in these pics than he was while in Melbourne.

you know the one that saves him from being mauled by fan-girls, or something? *giggles*

LOL! Maybe...

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
hehe! i got in for conners panel and the usher put me off to the side but after the batman movie finished the front row all left so i ran over! as a fan-girl you have to be sprightly! *giggles*

oh but up close you get a real appreciation for how gorgeous his skin is. its all tanned and he was scruffy and slouchy and his voice was all gruff *sigh*

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Date: 2007-10-21 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
one of the girls in the front row wanted her stuffed penguin to be in all the photos so she stuck him on stage. joe was seriously confused by it (heh) and conner decided the penguin would be his co-host.

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-raven.livejournal.com
I was sitting in the third row. I was just wondering if it was yours. :)

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
whoops, sorry! Hi! *waves*

so did you enjoy the panel? any more awesome photos?*grins* do you remember anything else you think i should mention?

oh also i love your icon, its so cute!

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-raven.livejournal.com
Hey! :D

I thought it was very cool. I don't think any of my photos turned out, because I am thusly doomed, but I did manage to get an audio recording that I hope to upload once I get home. I can't remember much else, my brain is fairly fried, but I think you covered nearly all of it. :D

Hee, thanks. I actually got to give Joe one this afternoon, he was rather amused. :)

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
ok now i officially hate you! you got to meet joe? *iz jealous*

but yay for new zealand souvenirs!

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roguish-angel.livejournal.com
great pics!!

and lol did he wear the same shirt as the one in Australia? hehehe

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Date: 2007-10-21 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
yes its the same shirt! my theory is that the shirt has magical powers that prevents him being attacked by fan-girls so he has to wear it to every con or risk being kidnapped!*giggle*

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Date: 2007-10-21 12:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lamardeuse.livejournal.com
Thanks for the great report and pics! Looks like he hasn't been shaving on his vacation (not that I mind). :)

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Date: 2007-10-21 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
Looks like he hasn't been shaving on his vacation
i know! its so yum. and he is tanned! his skin was all glowy.

Thanks for the great report and pics!
you're welcome, im glad to do it, it even let me spiff up my coding skills hehe.

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Date: 2007-10-21 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcalex22.livejournal.com
Great photos and great recap! I really really admire what you've written and how you've stated that fans shouldn't take your words as godsend... is this because of stuff you've read from the Flanigan's Australian experience?

I'm avoiding reading too much about the Australian con stuff mainly because I was there and I recorded what he said and it pains to see some of what he's said being twisted around.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong... but did that crazy elf woman fly all the way to NZ to bug him???

And yes, the lady in Byron Bay nearly lost her hand to a shark... I remember it was on the news here and she miraculously escaped. Funnily enough I wondered if he was there and then shrugged and thought, it'd be a hella conincidence if he was.

I love your photos and I see he's dispensed with tucking the shirt in!

Thanks for sharing your experiences :D

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Date: 2007-10-21 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
is this because of stuff you've read from the Flanigan's Australian experience?
i havent heard anything about this, i only read the first two posts that were up. i just put it in there because the stuff he said about torri and paul and the networks could be misconstrued and used negatively to reflect badly on him. i've seen other fandoms where people take one comment and blow it up into something bad and i dont want it to happen to him because he was just asking us to support torri and paul.

i dont know anything about the crazy elf lady except that joe thinks that to refute her claims might be injurious to his health. i think he just likes to spread the story. it is kinda freaky though.

i think the untucked shirt looks even better than its tucked version. he looked tanned and scruffy and just gorgeous on the day. i was in the first row and had to stop myself from drooling over his skin!

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Date: 2007-10-21 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emrinalexander.livejournal.com
People took comments he made in Melbourne, whacked them around out of context and then went to showrunner Joe Mallozzi's blog and asked him about what JF said! Of course, what they had down and what poor Flanigan actually said are wide apart.

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Date: 2007-10-21 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
thanks for the heads up. i havent checked out joes blog for a couple of days. ouch! i just read it. thats just. they we'rent even there and thry're like somebody told me that joe might have said...
thats just *grrrr*

i'm hoping that doesnt happen with anything i've posted here. i tried to be very specific especially about the stuff re. torri and paul.

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Date: 2007-10-21 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcalex22.livejournal.com
The funniest thing (or possibly saddest) is that I sort of expected this to happen, hoped it wouldn't then got told by some people that it did... then went over to look at Mallozzi's blog and sure enough, saw some rather disturbing comments.

I really like what [livejournal.com profile] liamar13 has written. She's very thoughtful and I totally agree about words being misconstrued.

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Date: 2007-10-22 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emrinalexander.livejournal.com
This is one of the best con reports I've seen in a long time - I'm grateful that she took the time and trouble to write all this stuff down for people like me who couldn't be there.

(I just think it's a shame that there are other people who are over on Mallozzi's blog writing stuff that makes me want to spork my eyes out.)

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Date: 2007-10-21 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcalex22.livejournal.com
He must have been extremely tanned! I mean, tanner than he normally already is. I think that it's his eyes which I find incredibly mesmerizing and how he just looks at you when he talks to you as if there's nobody else around!

He looks good in anything, so I won't argue about shirts! :D

Lucky you with first row seats. I got first row but at the side seating, so all I saw was his butt and boxers since he turned away a lot!


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Date: 2007-10-22 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
*giggle* you're not really complaining about that view were you? from where i was sitting i think it would have been a very good one *iz pervy*

unfortunately i am poor and so didnt get the chance to get his autograph or a photo so i dont know about his eyes but that sounds *sigh*. i am officially jealous of you. hehe.

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Date: 2007-10-21 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_kiden/
I couldn't even look at all of those pictures. The overwhelming hotness (and the shirt, guh), is, well, *sigh*

'Female girls' made me crack up so bad. :D

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Date: 2007-10-21 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
i was so lucky. i was in the first row \o/ and let me tell you, up close his skin like glowed! and he was all tanned and scruffy and his voice is gruff *sigh*. the shirt being all ruffled and untucked totally does it for me coz it makes me think he was ruffed up in a closet before hand. lol.

female girls. he realized what he said immediately and qualified by saying it was sci-fi so you never know. lol. the man is hilarious, its hard to convey but he has a great comedic timing.

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Date: 2007-10-21 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emrinalexander.livejournal.com
Oh, these pics are wonderful and so is your write-up of his talk! Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this down for those of us who weren't there. Sounds like he was wonderful and you had a great time.`

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Date: 2007-10-21 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mirabile-dictu.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you for writing this up! What a great time, and gorgeous photos.

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Date: 2007-10-21 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] volaremn.livejournal.com
Thank you for sharing with us! I was sure that the fallout from last week's con would cause people to lock down their reports. I also thought from your disclaimers that you knew about JF's remarks (specifically about opposing the Weir & Beckett decisions and about arguing with TPTB about characterization) spiraling out of control but I see from your comments that you didn't know, which just shows that you're a very wise person. This is a fabulously detailed report considering you wrote it from memory. Thanks again!

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Date: 2007-10-22 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
no worries! he was great and said a lot of interesting things, his opinions on the industry and on shooting etc so i thought it would be good to share with everyone. but as i was writing down the stuff about paul and torri i realized how people could blow it up out of proportion and possibly use it to reflect negatively on him so i put the disclaimer in and after reading joe m's blog *winch* i realized it was warranted. great way to get joe in trouble guys! i hope that doesnt happen here, it would be very upsetting if it did.

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Date: 2007-10-21 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing! :)

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Date: 2007-10-21 09:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liresius.livejournal.com
Thanks for the report! Full of great details!

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Date: 2007-10-22 11:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aqualegia.livejournal.com
Thanks for the report and for sharing your photographs.

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Date: 2007-10-24 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flightsilver.livejournal.com
Hey... just visiting as promised. :) I think you wrote a very well organised report. There are a number of things you wrote that I hadn't mentioned in mine. Eg: I forgot to mention the weird elf lady who thought that Joe's really an elf! That was so funny, I was chuckling away when I heard that. The pics you took are pretty cool. Except for the first one, they didn't turn out so red-eyed compared to the ones I took when I used the flash... Hee! :)

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Date: 2007-10-24 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
oh no babe, you're looking at the photos that have been de-redified. all of them had red eye before, now joes eyes are only mysteriouly glowy lol. oh thanks for stopping by. im glad to supply your tidbit needs. *indian accent* please come again (i can totally do that coz im indian lol)

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Date: 2007-10-24 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flightsilver.livejournal.com
"...the photos that have been de-redified" So that's your trick! Very clever! I never thought to do that for mine. "...now joes eyes are only mysteriously glowy" Oh dear, glowy eyes is an indication of being taken over by a Goa'uld! :D Oh and congrats on Monash... you go girl! :)

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Date: 2007-10-24 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liamar13.livejournal.com
de-redified is the totally scientific term, a step below de-wraithified really. lol

ooh john as a goa'uld. he would be way hotter than mitch pileggi. hehe.

oh and thanks. im quite excited.

btw did you hear?- we got season 5!

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Date: 2007-10-25 07:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flightsilver.livejournal.com
Yes, season 5!! That is so cool! *bounces*! :D

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Date: 2007-10-25 01:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lamaudite.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing!

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