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[liamar]

ok how sad is it that i just spent like 10 minutes just staring at the supernatural page on the CW website trying to take in the prettyness that is jensen ackles. i KNOW he is attractive, i mean there was that one scene in dark angel where i practically wore down the tape coz i 'missed the line' ( you cant blame me, jensen was in a towel) but sometimes that sort of thing just catches you off guard and you just end up going yaypretty! but brought this on was a desperate search to find out if supernatural has been renewed for season three. we are still on season one in NZ but the thing i really hate is how my favourite shows always get cancelled in the US just as they are getting good. and i really dont want spn to be cancelled, so i really wanted to find out whats going on, if anything. does anybody know something? if so do you feel like telling me? 

heh until you do i think i will contemplate the cuteness that is Jared. ok i gotta say that i didnt really find him that attractive at first, probably cuteDean carryovers from GG but after i saw the paley interview, heh i love them both (in a totally ok non stalkerish way of course) coz jared is sooo adorable in the interview and they are so funny together and you know HOT. which brought me to my interest (obsession, more like but thats just semantics) with stories involving the two, you know the evil dirty thing known as RPS that i the  supposed good catholic girl is totally going to hell for. but you know there are worse things to be sentenced for. plus ill have so much fun along the way. yeah so in response to this post i was wondering if anyone out there is also headed in my direction adn therefore might have some recs for good j2 fics, with or without plot, both are good. oh and if anyone would like to feed my JDM daddy kink i would most appreciate it.

OH GOD the userpic says it all

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[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

Yep, SPN has been renewed for Season 3 :) You can see it here:

http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/TVGuide-Talk/Podcasts/default.aspx

As for RPS recs, there is a list albydarned started here:

http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?user=albydarned&keyword=RPS+Recs&filter=all

I read now and then, but I get squicked very easily because there are many stories out there where something really bad happens to Jensen or Jared or to their families - bad things I could never wish for my enemies! Let alone the boys I adore so much.

Anyway, ranting sorry :P There are some fluffy cute RPS fics also out there, hope the link above helps :)

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

OMG thanks for the post. the list is soo long itll take me a while to go through it, at least a couple of days LOL! and yeah i know what you mean about people getting hurt, especially sandy, which is tragic coz you know i got nothing against the girl. the only thing she's done wrong is not fit with how most people want the porn to be. so sometimes i get squicked by that, the unnecessary cruelty. but hey hurt!jjared or hurt!jensen works sometimes, case in point writeatmidnight's sick!verse which is totally sad but really good too. heh i read way too much porn.

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

Yeah I've read the sickverse and it's good! But what I cannot stand is the boys being kidnapped/raped/tortured or their parents dead. Gawd.. I have a kink for hurt!boys too but I will never go to that extent with the real people. That's what the fictional characters are there for. OMG I'm so sorry i started rambling again :(

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

oh dont worry about the rambling, im known for it too. sometimes you just cant help yourself. i know what you mean about the hurtful things especially considering they are real people but if you would just allow me to get philosophical for a second if it is RPS they are fictional characters aren't they? i mean they are just characters who you come up with who share a name and circumstance with real people. none of what is written is true and nobody would actually wish that to happen to them but i guess some people treat them that way and they thrive on angst and darkness so we get things like that. does that make sense. im totally not saying i like reading that sort of thing, its not really my thing but hte above is totally my excuse if anyone questions my like for the dirty porn. heh! (see what i mean about the rambling?)

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

Hmm :) I suppose we're all entitled to our opinions hon.

But I guess, I'm thinking from the actual person's perspective. How do you think Jensen would feel if he reads something an alleged "fan" wrote about him where horrible things happen to him? How would his mom feel? *shudder* I know if I was his mom I'd hate us fangirls so much. And I can't pretend to not realize that some of us writers and readers are so addicted to the darkness that they will one day stop seeing the difference b/w reality and fiction. It's not good for them and god forbid if they end up doing something bad to the subject of their fantasies. Maybe I'm paranoid, maybe I'm thinking regressively, I dont know.. Last year I visited my college reunion. Bunch of us got drunk and continued the party at someone's place nearby. Guess what I found out.. a group of boys used to fantasize about which girl in class to choose for some gangraping fun and with sordid details of what they would do to her. One of the girls was flattered she was chosen. I was horrified.

oh well.. like I said.. we all have our opinions and a right to express them :) So there.

see what i mean about the rambling?
:D I guess we've established here that we're both big time ramblers lolz! I don't mind if you don't! :D

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

OH God! that really is horrible. i dont understand how someone can be so desensitised to reality to even think that was remotely ok. i mean some people might like the illusion of that sort of thing but rape etc is a real issue and i dont think anyone should take it that lightly. it scares me a little how everything is so common to us now, you hardly get shocked by what happens in the real world any longer, there's so much hurt that has just become commonplace. anyways yeah i was kind of horrified by that.

oh and the idea of jensens mum reading ANY of the stuff written about him *shudders*. i truly hope that he, jared and their families never do coz some of those things could probably scar them for life.

but yeah i understand how horrible it would be to think that people would ever wish these things on them. even if they didnt mean, and some people spend way too much time out of RL dreaming of this stuff, so it could scarily become real. (a bit freaked out now)

but yeah more rambling hehe! i call it geting on my soapbox. i do it very often, especially when the governments being an idiot. please keep rambling with me!

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

i dont understand how someone can be so desensitised to reality to even think that was remotely ok.

I know! And I'm glad you agree! We live in a really scary world hon. I was just so disgusted that night, but the guys were like, "hey it's a compliment Rachel!" What the FUCK? How is rape ever a compliment??? I'm glad my husband dragged me out of there or I might have created a scene lol.

Anyway...

oh and the idea of jensens mum reading ANY of the stuff written about him *shudders*. i truly hope that he, jared and their families never do coz some of those things could probably scar them for life.

Totally!! There was a writer who wrote some epic about Jensen kidnapped and.. every possible bad thing you can imagine was happening to him I think. It's what I gathered from the summary and God knows I'm never reading it. But what bugs me is her disclaimer: "None of this happened, but I wish it did."
Can you believe that?

even if they didnt mean, and some people spend way too much time out of RL dreaming of this stuff, so it could scarily become real. (a bit freaked out now)

:) Didnt mean to freak you out baby :) I guess I feel strongly about this but feel helpless to do anything to stop this trend. I mean, you cannot curb freedom of speech and expression right? Expecially not on the internet. What I do wanna do is stay away from it all myself.

Alright we have to stop talking about such depressing stuff :D Thank God for fluffy schmoopy RPS yeah? :) Did you get time to read through albydarned's yummy rec list? Think my very favorite is the JDM/JP fic.. Come to Papa lol! :D It's pretty kinky but all consentual and oh god so hot!! ;)

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

"None of this happened, but I wish it did."

WTF? you gotta be kidding me. thats... well thats weird for one thing, creepy for another. oh and if i had been at you reunion those boys would have ended in violence. seriously how can anyone actually believe that. thats the kind of thing that stops girls coming forward after they have been assaulted. its just sleazy. GRRRR.

ok im calming down now. try to think happy thoughts. no i havent got all the way throught the rec list yet but i have already found some that i need to add to my memories. and after your post i searched out the JDM/JP fic and can i just say OMG she hit all my JDM kinks in one fic. he's such a sexy bastard isn't he? and that voice. wooh *fans herself*. it seems you have some of the same taste in fic that i do so you must have read amara_m (phantisma). she writes the most dirty Daddykink! with both jensen and jared. honestly the first time i read her fic i was embarrased by myself but its soo hot. if you havent read it check it out. i think i mentioned it in one of my previous posts.

i should so be doing some study but really.. im going to go and try to get through more of that delicious fic on the reclist. heh!

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

and after your post i searched out the JDM/JP fic and can i just say OMG she hit all my JDM kinks in one fic. he's such a sexy bastard isn't he? and that voice. wooh *fans herself*. it seems you have some of the same taste in fic that i do so you must have read amara_m (phantisma).

Haha! I guess we DO have a whole lot in common hon :) And yeah, I have read a lot of phantisma's stuff.. you're right! she can be so deliciously dirty :P Got a geniune talent for writing kink and writing it red HOT!

Has she written any JDM/Jared as well? Do point me to it if she has hon :) My one big thing is bottom!Sam or bottom!Jared haha. Which doesnt mean I can't read anything else, but this just pushes all my buttons in the best way possible lol :)

What do you generally prefer?

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

well she has the one RPS series that has all three of them. it starts out as JDM/Jared and then its all three of them and OMG it is hot.

i actually like sam to be the pushy/ dirty one. coz you know he is so proper, i like it when he has a dirty mouth.

and is its Jared/JDM i like him the little manipulative, coz like they say he looks so sweet.

heh! i just realized my prefernces seem to be along the lines of all innocense being dirty. heh!

oh but that reminds me. there was this fic posted on wincest the other day that was John/Dean. from a girl who reads practically anything (except abject cruelty or horrible grammar) i found that i couldnt get into it at all. it kind of squicked me. maybe coz i dont think that it would be anywhere near balanced. john would always have the upper hand. your opinion?

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

I SO agree!! John/Dean ABSOLUTELY turns me off.. and I can't explain it because I did read a couple of John/Sam and they weren't great but they didn't squick me out either!

Am i biased? *winces* I dont think so. There is something about John/Dean that.. well yeah as you said it.. will never be balanced. Already Dean hero-worships him and would do anything for John. So it would be taking the worst kind of advantage of the boy if John ever did it, you know?

John/Sam on the other hand.. hell, I have no explanation! Not at this point hehe :) *ponders*

So you like Sam to be pushy and dirty, I get it ;) How about if he was manipulative little bitch but feeling dead guilty about it? :-P

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

well thats coz we already know that sam can stand up to john. he has done so in the past and unless he is really young (which btw EWWW)he would most likely be able to say no. wheras dean like you said would do anything for john. so yeah while the idea of john with either of them is kinda not right john/sam would be easier to stomach? though i doubt i will ever find a fic where this is entirely if nto plausible at least makes it seem so.

as for the other thing. sam as a manipulative bitch totally, but how can he be that as well as guilty. i figure if he's moping he cannot be half as devious.

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I guess you're right about the John/Sam dynamic. Its probably easier for me to stomach but it doesnt really do anything for me you know? Guess I'm going to stick on Dean/Sam in this fandom :) And maybe the occasional fluffy rps lol!

as for the other thing. sam as a manipulative bitch totally, but how can he be that as well as guilty. i figure if he's moping he cannot be half as devious.

Heh... this is precisely what I'm struggling with in "of hot showers". I need Sam to become just that slightly manipulative to get into Dean's pants lol. But he's such a good kid, he feels miserable doing it. *pets him*

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

the thing thatpeople gotta be careful of with sam/dean is always the fact that dean would do anything for sam, he really wants him to stay so its gotta be that dean wants it too but sam just need to overcome his objections, rather than manipulate him into something he doesnt want. but again that requires either sam knowing how dean really feels or dean realizing what an idiot he's being (ususally in the form of a lifelesson from someone).heh isnt that how it usually goes? i always think that all preseries stories have a harder time of it because dean is much more in big brother mode and sam is much less mature, less his own person. so you gotta do more to make it work. heh. i can barely write more than drabbles so i admire you for the whole series thing.

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the insight hon. You really helped! And I've probably taken on a bigger challenge than I'd imagined in the beginning. But hell, I suck at writing PWPs anyway.. hmm... now you got me thinking! :)

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

awesome! i love this little convo/debate we've got going!

one thing i dont understand though. i mean a lot of people say that writing PWPs is much easier than other stuff but really if you want it to be good. it requires a lot more thought and work than just tab a goes into slot b kind of things. i mean who was it that posted the other day harry/draco slash written by a straight man. it was horribe because it was all just like a play by play, no feeling anywhere. heh! here i go again.

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

I don't know which one you're referring to but I have a good idea how it must be. We've seen enough examples of bad pwps in every fandom haven't we ;-)
You're right.. even PWPs need to have a purpose, a beginning and an end and kudos to authors who can do a good job of it without having to resort to long-winded storytelling that some ppl fall into. *points at myself* :D

btw just noticed you posted a J2 fic.. yayy :) *rushes off to read*

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

hey i like the long stories. sometimes you want something more than just sex. sometimes you want some plot with your porn, makes it more interesting. and your plot with a side dish of porn is awesome. it takes lots of imagination and forethought *your personal cheerleader*

[cyndrarae.livejournal.com]

Awww.. thank you so much sweetheart! *hugs* :) One thing's for sure tho.. we've got to have the porn LOL! :D
You writing anything new? With porn of course? ;)

[liamar13.livejournal.com]

i've got a couple of ideas that are floating around in my head but they refuse to let me settle on one at any time. and just when i think im on to it i get another idea and i think i have to write that. heh! i seem to have caught the plotfic virus though because the one that keeps coming up is this idea about dean having these dreams and they are all connected with the major events in his life, starting form when he is four. it end up obviously with him dreaming about sam (insert porn here) and sam finding out etc but it refuses to come in order.grrr. anyways why am i whinging, i read about your woes. *pets you*. dont worry hon. just let them come as they will. remember this is supposed to be fun so dont stress yourself. good fic is worth the wait!